> Felado :  [United States]
> Temakor: Re: Pat Buchanan ( 25 sor )
>

> When the national unemployment rate drops steeply and the stock market
> reacts to such good economic news (at least in individual human terms) by
> taking a dive, something is definitely amiss between Main Street and Wall
> Street.

The stock market was not reacting to the economic news but rather anticipating
the next move of the Fed, which has a 5.5% unemployment target, meaning that
it considers a lower rate of unemployment to be inflatory (becuase it puts
great pressure on wages) and is likely to react by raising interest rates.
There is nothing amiss with the stock market, it reacts quite reasonably to
the totality of the economic situation (which includes not only production but
also the money supply).

You can ask whether the Fed's policy of effectively not permitting an
unemployment rate below 5.5% is the right one. Perhaps you are unemployed or
just think that a bit of wage inflation is in order, what with stagnating
wages in so many sectors. On the other hand, if you are a pensioner living on
fixed income you are likely to be very hostile to any source of inflation.

You could take this a step further (no dobt Buchanan would) and ask whether
this kind of power to make policy should reside with the unelected Fed board
or should be handed to elected politicians.  More direct state control of the
money supply is in fact quite common, both England and France are good
examples. I'm not eager to see this in the US, I must say. When the question
is who has the key to the press that prints the greenbacks I trust Alan
Greenspan more than Bob Dole and Bill Clinton combined. Hand the key to Pat
Buchanan? Hmmm...

Andras Kornai

Dear Colleagues,

Last night, every chair was full in Symphony Space. It was a rare night in
New York. A thousand young new yorkers intermixed with a couple dozen
Hungarian scouts and about 50 graying Hungarian emigrants in the audience. On
the stage: "The best thing to come out of Hungary since Bela Bartok" -
according to the New Yorker; the Muzsikas folk group with the Grammy winning
(best world-music album) Marta Sebestyen.

All night, we listened to the music of Transylvania, seen her dances, heard
her songs and more importantly, felt her tolerant, multicultural spirit. When
Marta Sebestyen ends the song: "Szol a kakas mar", the young man sitting next
to me in a yarmulke, jumps to his feet. The standing ovation lasts for
minutes and afterwards I learn, that what to us is just one of our many folk
songs, to the Jewish people, has become a semi-religious song, connecting
them to the Jewish farming villages of Hungary, the only country, which
allowed them to own land, the country which they loved in return and proved
that love by volunteering a Jewish regiment for Kossuth.

As we listen to the tilinkos and the gardons, as the dances of Szek and
Kalotaszeg, the melodies of the seklers and the csangos fill the music hall,
I must agree with the New York Times: "Though Marta Sebestyen thinks of
herself as only a guardian of the folk songs of her home country, she is much
more than that." Yes she is! I can tell that, when at the end, during the
unending standing ovation, I hear the kid in the yamulke yell: "Long live
Hungary!" and later in the lounge, I see a tall, bespectacled girl teaching
the Hebrew words of "Szol a kakas mar" to a couple of Hungarian scouts.  I
can tell that a healing process has started, a rediscovery of our true past
is in progress and I can tell that hate, distrust and division is on the
retreat.

It was a nice evening. See them, if you can.

Best Regards: Bela Liptak

At 09:22 AM 3/16/96 -0500, Bela Liptak wrote:

>It was a nice evening. See them, if you can.

If you can't, then make sure you track down some tapes or CD's by Muzsikas.
They are superb!  I first heard their music on the CBC and have since been
given a tape.  I just can't get enough of them.  It's world music at it's
very best.

Joe Szalai

On Sat, 16 Mar 1996, Bela Liptak wrote:

> can tell that a healing process has started, a rediscovery of our true past
> is in progress and I can tell that hate, distrust and division is on the
> retreat.

I hope these are prophetic words!  All I can add to them is: AMEN!

Martha

In article >, Andras Kornai
> writes:

>There is nothing amiss with the stock market, it reacts quite reasonably
to
>the totality of the economic situation (which includes not only
production
>but
>also the money supply).

There is something amiss with the stock market in human terms when it
values the prime rate above the unemployment rate. Your argument sounds
like it's right out of the supply-side playbook, wherein we are extolled
not to worry about unemployment rates of nine or ten percent because
they're perfectly "natural." Is it any wonder the country club Republicans
never saw Pat Buchanan or Ross Perot headed toward them with a meat
cleaver? But, hey, who was it that said economics is politics trying to
pass for science?
Sam Stowe

At 07:57 PM 3/14/96 -0500, George Szaszvari wrote:

>As far as being a discriminatory society is concerned, Hungary compares
>well with her neighbours, don't you think? I'd compare Hungary pretty
>favourably with Britain too, but then I'm probably much more aware of the
>horrendous injustices that are regularly perpetrated in Britain today,
>rather than the odd few I hear about in Hungary.

Does Hungary compare well with her neighbours?  That's a tought call.
Hungary is much more homogeneous than most her neighbours.  The only sizable
or notable minorities are the gypsies and the jews.  Do they fare better in
Hungary than in neighbouring countries?

Canada is a nation of minorities with a long and colourful history of racism
and bigotry.  But we're learning from the past.  We have to.  The country
and the provinces have tough human rights laws and these laws have teeth.
And Canadians don't shy away from going to the human rights commissions if
they feel that they've been discriminated against.

Some may think that Canada is not very tolerant because the human rights
commissions are always busy.  I think it's a sign that people don't put up
with discrimination.  One important thing that I've noticed in the last ten
years or so, is that more and more people are confronting their friends,
co-workers, and yes!, even family members and relatives about racist or
sexist, or homophobic attitudes.  This is good.  Many Canadians are
realizing that it's not 'cool' to be intolerant.

Of course, there are small groups of white supremacists and neo-nazis
running around trying to stir up some shit.  And with high unemployment
rates among young people they manage to get new recruits but so far they
have not had a major impact on society or social attitudes.  Most people
just dismiss them out of hand.

Canada has changed a lot since my family settled here.  It's still no
paradise but if we can show the world that people of any and all backgrounds
can live in harmony then we've done OK.  It may take a very long time but at
least we're on the correct road.

Joe Szalai

J. Szalai wrote some very nice thing about Canada and her tolerance toward
any kind of minorities. Well I was lucky enough to be able to spend a year
in Montreal 3-4 years ago. It is a wonderful city with exciting and interes-
ting life, a kind of mixture of the europian and american way of life.
However I had some 'funny' experience, too. First, very surprising to me,
everything was written in French (and ONLY French). At least that time it
was STRICTLY FORBIDDEN to have a text displayed in public area written in
other language than French. Even the Burger King had to be written as
'Burger Royal'. Second, if one does not speak French like me, he/she can have
some taste of the discrimination regardless of color, gender, sexual
oriantation, colour of the hair, size of nose, etc. For example, once I
was in the Olympic Stadium to watch the first baseball game in my life.
During the game I had a minor problem and had to find a certain place. No
problem, I thought, in such a big stadium there have to be plenty of restrooms.
So, I ask the first employee I could find. The answer was that she did not
speak English. So, I quickly repeated 'toilet,toilet,toilet', but it did
not help she still did not understand. So, I might just misinterpret the
situation, but I had the feeling that she did not WANT to understand me
(eventually the 'toilet' is a French word). Beside I heard other such stories,
too. But this experience did not scare me too much (finally I found the toilet
without assistance :-) ) and I still love Montreal (especially from Toledo :-(
 ). One swedish friend took the funny side of this anglo-french story, he
 ordered
and paid his coffee in English in a cafe-house afterward he thanked the fine
coffee in French. You should have seen the waiter's face.

Janos

I am working for a client in the United States who will be visiting
Hungary in the next 6 months or so.  She would like to know if there is
a list of all the trade shows (of any sort) that will take place in
Hungary in the near future.

If anyone knows where I can find such information on the internet, I
would be very appreciative.  Does the government of Hungary
(specifically the areas of commerce) have a web site or telnet site that
anyone knows of?

Thanks in advance...

-Tom Klimchak

Dear Everyone,


Please excuse my ignorance and use of English as this is very new to me.I am
trying to find my family members in Hungary. My Nagymama and Nagypapa came to
New Jersey, U.S.A. in the first few years of 1900, I believe. My Nagymama's
name was Zuzsana Duzs and she was from the village of Szalonna in the
Northeast of Hungary. My Nagypapa's name was Ja'nos Kiss and was said to have
come from a village by the name of Szu"rthe in Ung megye.

If anyone can help me in anyway, please send your information to me at
>   My address will change soon as eWorld is
converting to a Website only system. I will try and post a new address by
April when that happens.

Thank you very much,
Alan Hackett (Kiss-Duzs)

P.S. I am repeating this from last week in hopes that some new folks might
see it, thanks. My email address is now correct (above).

Dear Al,

I have been trying to find a place to begin tracking my maternal
grandparents' families. The YAHOO search engine came up with your name. If
you can offer any guidance, please contact me at

                


until the end of the month when eWorld no longer exists.........will probably
have a AOL account then.

Nagypapa= Kiss
Nagymama=Duzs

Thankyou,
Alan Hackett