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Dear Colleagues,
If you are planning a visit anyway, you might want to schedule it to coincide
with this artcamp between August 10 and 23.
Best regards: Bela Liptak
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Forwarded message:
From:  (external Lixandru Robert)
To: 
Date: 97-06-30 08:28:50 EDT
Second International Artcamp - Aiud, Romania
10 - 23 of August 1997
Organizers: Hungarian Cultural Society of Transsylvania, Mayor Office of
Aiud.
We will have 55 artists from 20 countries: Austria, Bulgaria, Hungary,
Moldavian Rep., Israel, Poland, China, Japan, U.S.A., France, Denmarc,
Nigeria, Australia, Germany, Czech Rep., Italy, Greece, Sweden, Turkey
and Romania.
During the camp we will assure food and sleeping place for free.
For oil-paintings and sculpture we also assure basic materials, but for
aquarell and graphic work we can not supply the needed necessary materials.
Every participant has to pay its own fare.
Our policy is that end of the camp the artists will give 3 of their
works to the organizers. At the end of the camp we will set up an
exhibition with the gathered paintings.
The program is based on and free working activities and trip.
The assistance and sposors will receive a work from the organizers.
We need your help to organize this artcamp.
Campleaders: Istvan Balog, Sandor Mezei.
I'm Robert and I help to organize the artcamp. Please send your mail
to me:
mailto:
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Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 17:06:25 GMP+100
From: Berke Zsuzsa  >
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To: 
Subject: HUNGARIAN NATIONAL BIBLIOGRAPHY WWW
This announcement has been crossposted to several mailing list.
Please excuse any duplication and any inconveniences caused by
it.
ANNOUNCEMENT OF THE HUNGARIAN NATIONAL LIBRARY
H-1827 BUDAPEST, BUDAVARI PALOTA F. EP.
FAX: +36-1 202-0804
The Hungarian National Bibliography, Bibliography of Books is now
available the Internet. Entitled: Magyar Nemzeti Bibliografia,
Konyvek Bibliografiaja - WWW, the three recent issues of the
bibliography are available at the URL:
http://www.oszk.hu/mnbkb/
The content of the bibliography corresponds to the printed version,
the structure slightly differs to assist easy use. In the main part
of the bibliography the entries are arranged in nine broad subject
groups based on UDC. Within the subject groups entries are sorted
alphabetically. An alphabetical index of names and titles, and an
ISBN index follow the main part. The identification number in an
index entry refers to the full bibliographic description which can be
displayed on the screen.
DOWNLOADING POSSIBILITY
Records in HUNMARC [Hungarian MARC based on USMARC] format can be
selected and downloaded, for subscribers. Five character sets are
offered.
DEMO VERSION
The Hungarian National Library offers a Demo Version for anybody to
experiment with downloading without subscription. Information about
the scope and structure of the bibliography, standards in use,
structure of the entries, and about other national bibliographic
services is also available in the Demo Version.
Until 31st of August, during a test period of two months, the
language of the system is only Hungarian. From 1st of September an
English version will also be available on the WWW and subscriptions
will be accepted. By the end of the test period five issues will be
available, from then the five most recent issues will be accessible.
Comments, remarks and suggestions are most welcome.
E-Mail address: 
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A.Vadasz wrote:
>> What happens in an emergency ? IFOR took about two months to negotiate
>> a transit agreement with Austria, Czechs and Slovakia. Must have faith...
and later:
>I think the point had been missed. It is not the physical capability to
>deploy personnel or materiel, but the international/legal/diplomatic
>question. One can not simply cross another sovereign country with military
>resources without its permission- by land or by air. Even Hitler asked
>Hungary for permission to cross it- and he was not known for niceties.
I think there can be an agreement between the NATO and a neutral country
which assure free NATO movement on or above the territory of the neutral
country. I mean supply or military operations, either airborne or on land
without asking permission for each individual movement. I guess Hungary had
something like this with the NATO when AWACS planes were used to
monitor the air activities over Bosnia. I do not think that Slovenia for
example would refuse to allow such a special status for NATO even without
being accepted in the first round.
Also I do not understand excatly what emergency situation A.Vadasz was
talking about. A local one, i.e Hungary may have a problem with one of
her neighbour? I guess in this case we can expect that a modernized
Hungarian army (together with other NATO forces stationed permanently
in Hungary if necessary) can handle the situation at least untill help
arrives. Or he meant global emergency, like Russian attack? In this sense
it is almost irrelevant whether the NATO can effectively defend Hungary
or not. The main point is that the Russians cannot do aggression against her
without having problem with other more powerful countries. If they are
willing to attack a NATO country than there will be other more serious
matters to worry about.
J.Zs
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Dear friends,
I received the final version of our petition corrected by
Professor Steven C. Scheer this morning.
I have attached the up-dated list of members who has joined the
petition. Note that among them there are members of the Hungarian
Parliament of the coaltion as well as of the opposition parties.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE PETITION!!
Do it by sending me you name address and title. You Do not have to be
subscribed on the HL to join the petition.
Best wishes
Peter Orban
********************************************************
To: 1st of July, 1997
The Honorable Bill Clinton
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20001
Members of the Hungarian Lobby are deeply interested in the future of
East-Central Europe, and recognize the need for simultaneous
integration of the countries of the region into NATO. This would
stabilize the whole region and assure the orderly transition toward
democracy and market economy, without the turmoil seen in the former
Yugoslavia.
Romania, a country of 23 milion people, with affinity toward Western
culture, at the same time represents the best potential base of
stability in the Balkans.
Romania's ongoing political democratization and reorganization of all
central and local governmental institutions, the inclusion of the
large Hungarian minority in the government, and the expected
subsequent satisfaction of legitimate minority claims are -- and may
become -- positive examples for the countries of the region.
A look at the map of Europe shows Romania to be the gateway to the
East. Only through this gateway will it be possible to access the
heart of Europe, and the key that will allow this gateway to stay
open -- and to defend it effectively at the same time -- is NATO
membership for Romania.
With an important economic potential due to a large and fertile
agricultural area, her metallurgical and defense industries ready to
produce for her allies, possessing the biggest maritime port in
Eastern Europe, with a multiethnic population and large urban
communities, Romania is just as much an important future partner and
ally of the European Community and of NATO as are Poland, the Czech
Republic, and Hungary.
For all of the above considerations, members of the Hungarian Lobby,
who during the last six months learned, along the the members of
Diaspora Romana, to cooperate in promoting the cause of democratic
transformation in Eastern-Central Europe, support the inclusion of
Romania, along with Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, among the
first group of countries to be integrated into NATO.
Members of the Hungarian Lobby :
László Aranyos
Broadcast Eng.
5706 N. Richmond St
Chicago, Il. 60659
dr. Gyorgy Bathori
Physiologist
1024 Budapest Margit Korut 29 I/2
HUNGARY
Gustav Bayerle
2210 Rock Creek Drive
Bloomington, IN 47401 USA
Leslie Bihary, President
The Szechenyi Istvan Society
Hungarian House
213-215 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Tel:212-249-9360
E Mail:
Maria Orban Bihary
US Representative of "Erdelyi Magyarsag"
402 East 65th Street Apt. 2B
New York, NY 10021-7116, USA
Tel:212-744-7946
Fax:212-744-0614
E Mail: 
Zsigmond Biro
#200-6005-103 Street,
Edmonton, Alberta
T6H 2H3
CANADA
Denes BOGSANYI ATRACI
133 Osburn Drive
MACGREGOR
Australia
Tel. 61 6 254 3636
Zoltan Bretter
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Kepviseloi Irodahaz
1358 Budapest
Széchenyi rkp. 19.
Dr Jan Cederquist
Krokslätts Parkg 47
431 68 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
dr. Miklos Csapody
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Orszaggyules Irodahaza, MDF frakcio
1357 Budapest
HUNGARY
Istvan CSUTAK, former MP,
director of County Cultural Center in M-Ciuc
str. Pict. Nagy Imre Nr. 45
4100 Miercurea - Ciuc
ROMANIA
Istvan Devenyi
Engineer
125 Hilands Place
Pittsburgh, PA 15237-3303, USA
Constanta-Victoria Dobre
Bio-Medical Scientist
524 SouthField Drive
Maumee, OH 43537, USA
 ,mco.edu>
Laszlo Dosa
Science and Medical Writer
Jupiter, Florida, USA
Dr Fabian Eszter
Pediatrician
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Fulop Almos
Str.Culmei Nr 10 Ap 4
Csikszereda 4100
Hargita
Romania
Geza Fulop, Ph.D.
Rua das Carpas 76
04648-020 Sao Paulo
Brasil
Everett D. Glover Ph.D. Retired Professor
23 Sherman Terrace #3
Madison, WI 53704
USA
Greta Glover
1004 E. Dayton St.
Madison, WI 53703
USA
Madeleine Glover, M.A., M.S.
President/CEO
Hunport, Inc.
1008 Yale Road
Madison, WI 53705
USA
Michael L Glover, M.A.
Director, MIT Insurance Dept.
8 Myrtle St. #3
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
USA
Miklos Haraszti
Former Member of Hungary's Parliament
Bard College
Annandale-on-Hudson
N. Y. 12504, USA
Tel: (914) 758 7364
Fax: (914) 758 4294
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ADDRESS AFTER JUNE 30:
Fejer Gyorgy 8
Budapest 5, 1053,
Hungary
 >
Tel: (361) 117-7605
Attila Haverland
26310-F Rampart Blvd.
Port Charlotte, FL 33983
USA
Dipl.-Ing. Miklós K. Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
e-mail: 
T : +49-4331-38014
F : +49-4331-38014
Ursula Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
T : +49-4331-38441
F : +49-4331-38014
Imre Holenyi
Pharmacist
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Dr. George Jalsovszky
Senior Research Associate,
Hungarian Academy of Sciences
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Dr. Ildiko Jalsovszky
Attorney at Law, Patent Agent
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Géza Jeszenszky, MP, Foreign Affairs spokesman,
Minister for Foreign Affairs, 1990-1994
1357 Budapest, Orszaghaz, HUNGARY
Krister Johansson
Blahammarsg 7
416 72 GOTEBORG
Sweden
Karoly KIRALY, former senator, former vice president of Romania in
1990, between 1972 - 1989 disident against Ceausescu's comunist regime
str. Banki Donath 40 3000 Sf. - Gheorghe ROMANIA
J. Louis Kovach
Corporation executive
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Mary B. Kovach
Artist
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Arpad F. Kovacs
2101 Belvedere Blvd #1
Silver Spring, MD 20902, USA
Anna Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI, USA
Katalin Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI,USA
Peter Kovalszki,M.D
IMA-PC
Mt.Clemens,MI,USA
Elmer L. Kuber
138 Oliver Ave.
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
R1A 0C3
Sandor Lengyel
Sr. PR. Engineer
531 E Taylor, Apt# 5
Sunnyvale, CA. 94086
U.S.A
Istvan Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Maria Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Bela G. Liptak
Adjunct Professor at Yale University
Stamford, CT. USA
Marta Liptak, Ceramics Artist
84 Old N. Stamford Rd., Stamford, CT 06905, USA
Adam Liptak, Esq., New York Times
69 W 8th St., Apt. 11G, New York City, NY 10011, USA
Agnes Liptak, President of Fresco
149 W 75th St., Apt. 4A, New York City, NY 10023, USA
Tibor P.P.Lukacs B.A., B.Ed., tanar
18 Merrygale Crescent
Islington, Ontario
Canada, M9B 5P1
Laszlo MESZAROS
senior software designer
Vecsey u. 17
H-2013 Pomaz
Hungary
E-mail: 
Peter I. Orban, engineer
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Szilvia Orban, student
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Stephen Pálffy
Systems Consultant
47 Weavers Close, Isleworth,
Middx. TW7 6ET, England
Eszter Pásztó
Senior Office Manager BBC Hungarian Section
H-1078 Budapest
Hernád u. 25
Hungary
Dr. Sándor Pósvári
euroASTRA
H-1145 Budapest
Amerikai út 47
Sandor Posvari Dr.
E-mail: 
Maria Repolski,M.D.
HFHS
Sterling Heights, MI,USA
Balazs Revffy
Budapest, Hungary
1119 Alsokubin u. 7.
Dr. Gotthard Saghi-Szabo
Senior Research Scientist
Carnegie Institution of Washington
Washington, D.C.
USA
Istvan Sandor
430 Stockton Place
Englewood, NJ 07631
USA
Gergely Simon
software developer
Am Buchrain 15a
D-63322 Rödermark
Germany
Joe Szalai
User Services
Dana Porter Library
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario Canada
Tel: 519 885-1211, ex5758
Net: 
http://library.uwaterloo.ca:80/~jgszalai/joesmain.htm
Dr. Laszlo Szarka geophysicist
H-9400 Sopron, Feher Daniel u. 13.
T:36-99-332608
email:
Ilona Szarvadi
Dalbog 3
431 38 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
Peter Szepesvary
5 Bajcsy Zsilinszky str
Budapest 1065
Hungary
Geza SZOCS poet, former senator
str. Cismigiu Nr.1
3400 Cluj
ROMANIA
Laszlo Surjan
member of the Hungarian Parliament
Budapest XII.
Zirzen Janka u. 9.
Hungary
Mihaly Tapolyai,MD
Chairman, Department of Nephrology and Hypertension
Cleveland Clinic Florida
2801 N.Course Drive G201
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33069, USA
A.J. Vadasz
5743 Pignut Mtn. Dr.
Warrenton VA 20187
USA T:540 349 1408
Dr. Imre Vago, assistant professor
H-4015 Debrecen, PO. Box 36. Hungary
E-mail: 
Charles M. Vamossy
President
The Hungarian House
213 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Dr.Laszlo Varju
LT. Colonel,USAF,MC
406 EABG,SGOMF
Operation Joint Guard (SFOR)
APO AE 09794
George B. Waginger
1900 John F. Kennedy Boulevard
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1428
United States of America
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VÁLASZ |
Feladó:  (cikkei)
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Dear friends,
I received the final version of our petition corrected by
Professor Steven C. Scheer this morning.
I have attached the up-dated list of members who has joined the
petition. Note that among them there are members of the Hungarian
Parliament of the coaltion as well as of the opposition parties.
PLEASE SUPPORT THE PETITION!!
Do it by sending me you name address and title. You Do not have to be
subscribed on the HL to join the petition.
Best wishes
Peter Orban
********************************************************
To: 1st of July, 1997
The Honorable Bill Clinton
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20001
Members of the Hungarian Lobby are deeply interested in the future of
East-Central Europe, and recognize the need for simultaneous
integration of the countries of the region into NATO. This would
stabilize the whole region and assure the orderly transition toward
democracy and market economy, without the turmoil seen in the former
Yugoslavia.
Romania, a country of 23 milion people, with affinity toward Western
culture, at the same time represents the best potential base of
stability in the Balkans.
Romania's ongoing political democratization and reorganization of all
central and local governmental institutions, the inclusion of the
large Hungarian minority in the government, and the expected
subsequent satisfaction of legitimate minority claims are -- and may
become -- positive examples for the countries of the region.
A look at the map of Europe shows Romania to be the gateway to the
East. Only through this gateway will it be possible to access the
heart of Europe, and the key that will allow this gateway to stay
open -- and to defend it effectively at the same time -- is NATO
membership for Romania.
With an important economic potential due to a large and fertile
agricultural area, her metallurgical and defense industries ready to
produce for her allies, possessing the biggest maritime port in
Eastern Europe, with a multiethnic population and large urban
communities, Romania is just as much an important future partner and
ally of the European Community and of NATO as are Poland, the Czech
Republic, and Hungary.
For all of the above considerations, members of the Hungarian Lobby,
who during the last six months learned, along the the members of
Diaspora Romana, to cooperate in promoting the cause of democratic
transformation in Eastern-Central Europe, support the inclusion of
Romania, along with Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, among the
first group of countries to be integrated into NATO.
Members of the Hungarian Lobby :
László Aranyos
Broadcast Eng.
5706 N. Richmond St
Chicago, Il. 60659
dr. Gyorgy Bathori
Physiologist
1024 Budapest Margit Korut 29 I/2
HUNGARY
Gustav Bayerle
2210 Rock Creek Drive
Bloomington, IN 47401 USA
Leslie Bihary, President
The Szechenyi Istvan Society
Hungarian House
213-215 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Tel:212-249-9360
E Mail:
Maria Orban Bihary
US Representative of "Erdelyi Magyarsag"
402 East 65th Street Apt. 2B
New York, NY 10021-7116, USA
Tel:212-744-7946
Fax:212-744-0614
E Mail: 
Zsigmond Biro
#200-6005-103 Street,
Edmonton, Alberta
T6H 2H3
CANADA
Denes BOGSANYI ATRACI
133 Osburn Drive
MACGREGOR
Australia
Tel. 61 6 254 3636
Zoltan Bretter
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Kepviseloi Irodahaz
1358 Budapest
Széchenyi rkp. 19.
Dr Jan Cederquist
Krokslätts Parkg 47
431 68 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
dr. Miklos Csapody
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Orszaggyules Irodahaza, MDF frakcio
1357 Budapest
HUNGARY
Istvan CSUTAK, former MP,
director of County Cultural Center in M-Ciuc
str. Pict. Nagy Imre Nr. 45
4100 Miercurea - Ciuc
ROMANIA
Istvan Devenyi
Engineer
125 Hilands Place
Pittsburgh, PA 15237-3303, USA
Constanta-Victoria Dobre
Bio-Medical Scientist
524 SouthField Drive
Maumee, OH 43537, USA
 ,mco.edu>
Laszlo Dosa
Science and Medical Writer
Jupiter, Florida, USA
Dr Fabian Eszter
Pediatrician
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Fulop Almos
Str.Culmei Nr 10 Ap 4
Csikszereda 4100
Hargita
Romania
Geza Fulop, Ph.D.
Rua das Carpas 76
04648-020 Sao Paulo
Brasil
Everett D. Glover Ph.D. Retired Professor
23 Sherman Terrace #3
Madison, WI 53704
USA
Greta Glover
1004 E. Dayton St.
Madison, WI 53703
USA
Madeleine Glover, M.A., M.S.
President/CEO
Hunport, Inc.
1008 Yale Road
Madison, WI 53705
USA
Michael L Glover, M.A.
Director, MIT Insurance Dept.
8 Myrtle St. #3
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
USA
Miklos Haraszti
Former Member of Hungary's Parliament
Bard College
Annandale-on-Hudson
N. Y. 12504, USA
Tel: (914) 758 7364
Fax: (914) 758 4294
 >
***********************
ADDRESS AFTER JUNE 30:
Fejer Gyorgy 8
Budapest 5, 1053,
Hungary
 >
Tel: (361) 117-7605
Attila Haverland
26310-F Rampart Blvd.
Port Charlotte, FL 33983
USA
Dipl.-Ing. Miklós K. Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
e-mail: 
T : +49-4331-38014
F : +49-4331-38014
Ursula Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
T : +49-4331-38441
F : +49-4331-38014
Imre Holenyi
Pharmacist
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Dr. George Jalsovszky
Senior Research Associate,
Hungarian Academy of Sciences
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Dr. Ildiko Jalsovszky
Attorney at Law, Patent Agent
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Géza Jeszenszky, MP, Foreign Affairs spokesman,
Minister for Foreign Affairs, 1990-1994
1357 Budapest, Orszaghaz, HUNGARY
Krister Johansson
Blahammarsg 7
416 72 GOTEBORG
Sweden
Karoly KIRALY, former senator, former vice president of Romania in
1990, between 1972 - 1989 disident against Ceausescu's comunist regime
str. Banki Donath 40 3000 Sf. - Gheorghe ROMANIA
J. Louis Kovach
Corporation executive
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Mary B. Kovach
Artist
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Arpad F. Kovacs
2101 Belvedere Blvd #1
Silver Spring, MD 20902, USA
Anna Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI, USA
Katalin Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI,USA
Peter Kovalszki,M.D
IMA-PC
Mt.Clemens,MI,USA
Elmer L. Kuber
138 Oliver Ave.
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
R1A 0C3
Sandor Lengyel
Sr. PR. Engineer
531 E Taylor, Apt# 5
Sunnyvale, CA. 94086
U.S.A
Istvan Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Maria Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Bela G. Liptak
Adjunct Professor at Yale University
Stamford, CT. USA
Marta Liptak, Ceramics Artist
84 Old N. Stamford Rd., Stamford, CT 06905, USA
Adam Liptak, Esq., New York Times
69 W 8th St., Apt. 11G, New York City, NY 10011, USA
Agnes Liptak, President of Fresco
149 W 75th St., Apt. 4A, New York City, NY 10023, USA
Tibor P.P.Lukacs B.A., B.Ed., tanar
18 Merrygale Crescent
Islington, Ontario
Canada, M9B 5P1
Laszlo MESZAROS
senior software designer
Vecsey u. 17
H-2013 Pomaz
Hungary
E-mail: 
Peter I. Orban, engineer
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Szilvia Orban, student
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Stephen Pálffy
Systems Consultant
47 Weavers Close, Isleworth,
Middx. TW7 6ET, England
Eszter Pásztó
Senior Office Manager BBC Hungarian Section
H-1078 Budapest
Hernád u. 25
Hungary
Dr. Sándor Pósvári
euroASTRA
H-1145 Budapest
Amerikai út 47
Sandor Posvari Dr.
E-mail: 
Maria Repolski,M.D.
HFHS
Sterling Heights, MI,USA
Balazs Revffy
Budapest, Hungary
1119 Alsokubin u. 7.
Dr. Gotthard Saghi-Szabo
Senior Research Scientist
Carnegie Institution of Washington
Washington, D.C.
USA
Istvan Sandor
430 Stockton Place
Englewood, NJ 07631
USA
Gergely Simon
software developer
Am Buchrain 15a
D-63322 Rödermark
Germany
Joe Szalai
User Services
Dana Porter Library
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario Canada
Tel: 519 885-1211, ex5758
Net: 
http://library.uwaterloo.ca:80/~jgszalai/joesmain.htm
Dr. Laszlo Szarka geophysicist
H-9400 Sopron, Feher Daniel u. 13.
T:36-99-332608
email:
Ilona Szarvadi
Dalbog 3
431 38 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
Peter Szepesvary
5 Bajcsy Zsilinszky str
Budapest 1065
Hungary
Geza SZOCS poet, former senator
str. Cismigiu Nr.1
3400 Cluj
ROMANIA
Laszlo Surjan
member of the Hungarian Parliament
Budapest XII.
Zirzen Janka u. 9.
Hungary
Mihaly Tapolyai,MD
Chairman, Department of Nephrology and Hypertension
Cleveland Clinic Florida
2801 N.Course Drive G201
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33069, USA
A.J. Vadasz
5743 Pignut Mtn. Dr.
Warrenton VA 20187
USA T:540 349 1408
Dr. Imre Vago, assistant professor
H-4015 Debrecen, PO. Box 36. Hungary
E-mail: 
Charles M. Vamossy
President
The Hungarian House
213 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Dr.Laszlo Varju
LT. Colonel,USAF,MC
406 EABG,SGOMF
Operation Joint Guard (SFOR)
APO AE 09794
George B. Waginger
1900 John F. Kennedy Boulevard
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1428
United States of America
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Dear friends,
YOU HAVE NOW EXACTLY 18 HOURS LEFT TO JOIN THE PETITION.
The Hungarian Lobby has already taken steps to secure that President
Clinton receives the petition personally on 1st of July. This is our
last opportunity to influence the decision of the US Government on
the new NATO-members.
For this reason: PLEASE JOIN THE PETITION NOW!
You may do this by sending a message with Your name
and address (city,state,country) to Peter Orban:
The petition as well as an up-dated list of people who signed the
document is attached. Note that politicians of coalition as well as
the opposition parties of the Hungarian Parliament have signed.
Best wishes
Peter Orban
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LIST WITH PEOPLE WHO JOINED THE PETITION:
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Fulop Almos
Str.Culmei Nr 10 Ap 4
Csikszereda 4100
Hargita
Romania
Laszlo Aranyos
Broadcast Eng.
5706 N. Richmond St
Chicago, Il. 60659
dr. Gyorgy Bathori
Physiologist
1024 Budapest Margit Korut 29 I/2
HUNGARY
Gustav Bayerle
2210 Rock Creek Drive
Bloomington, IN 47401 USA
Leslie Bihary, President
The Szechenyi Istvan Society
Hungarian House
213-215 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Tel:212-249-9360
E Mail:
Maria Orban Bihary
US Representative of "Erdelyi Magyarsag"
402 East 65th Street Apt. 2B
New York, NY 10021-7116, USA
Tel:212-744-7946
Fax:212-744-0614
E Mail: 
Zsigmond Biro
#200-6005-103 Street,
Edmonton, Alberta
T6H 2H3
CANADA
Denes BOGSANYI ATRACI
133 Osburn Drive
MACGREGOR
Australia
Tel. 61 6 254 3636
Zoltan Bretter
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Kepviseloi Irodahaz
1358 Budapest
Széchenyi rkp. 19.
Dr Jan Cederquist
Krokslätts Parkg 47
431 68 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
dr. Miklos Csapody
Member of the Hungarian Parliament
Orszaggyules Irodahaza, MDF frakcio
1357 Budapest
HUNGARY
Istvan CSUTAK, former MP,
director of County Cultural Center in M-Ciuc
str. Pict. Nagy Imre Nr. 45
4100 Miercurea - Ciuc
ROMANIA
Istvan Devenyi
Engineer
125 Hilands Place
Pittsburgh, PA 15237-3303, USA
Constanta-Victoria Dobre
Bio-Medical Scientist
524 SouthField Drive
Maumee, OH 43537, USA
 ,mco.edu>
Laszlo Dosa
Science and Medical Writer
Jupiter, Florida, USA
Dr Fabian Eszter
Pediatrician
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Marta Farkas
1031 Budapest, Kaszasdulo u. 9.
Hungary
Dr. Andras Fodor
Associate Professor
Eotvos University
Department of Genetics
Budapest, Muzeum krt. 4/A
H-1088 HUNGARY
Phone: +36.1.266.1296
FAX: +36.1.266.2694
Eva Kinga Farnsworth
CDI Travel, Inc-owner Shamals
105 Marshville Road
Fort Plain, NY 13339
USA
Tel: 518 993-4955
Fax: 518 993-3141
e-mail: 
Geza Fulop, Ph.D.
Rua das Carpas 76
04648-020 Sao Paulo
Brasil
Everett D. Glover Ph.D. Retired Professor
23 Sherman Terrace #3
Madison, WI 53704
USA
Greta Glover
1004 E. Dayton St.
Madison, WI 53703
USA
Madeleine Glover, M.A., M.S.
President/CEO
Hunport, Inc.
1008 Yale Road
Madison, WI 53705
USA
Michael L Glover, M.A.
Director, MIT Insurance Dept.
8 Myrtle St. #3
Jamaica Plain, MA 02130
USA
Miklos Haraszti
Former Member of Hungary's Parliament
Bard College
Annandale-on-Hudson
N. Y. 12504, USA
Tel: (914) 758 7364
Fax: (914) 758 4294
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ADDRESS AFTER JUNE 30:
Fejer Gyorgy 8
Budapest 5, 1053,
Hungary
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Tel: (361) 117-7605
Attila Haverland
26310-F Rampart Blvd.
Port Charlotte, FL 33983
USA
Dipl.-Ing. Miklós K. Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
e-mail: 
T : +49-4331-38014
F : +49-4331-38014
Ursula Hoffmann
Am Hang 11
D-24794 Borgstedt
Germany
T : +49-4331-38441
F : +49-4331-38014
Imre Holenyi
Pharmacist
Dr Belfrages gata 10
413 22 Goteborg
Sweden
Dr. George Jalsovszky
Senior Research Associate,
Hungarian Academy of Sciences
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Dr. Ildiko Jalsovszky
Attorney at Law, Patent Agent
Egri J. u. 40
H-1111 Budapest
Hungary
Géza Jeszenszky, MP, Foreign Affairs spokesman,
Minister for Foreign Affairs, 1990-1994
1357 Budapest, Orszaghaz, HUNGARY
Krister Johansson
Blahammarsg 7
416 72 GOTEBORG
Sweden
Karoly KIRALY, former senator,
former vice president of Romania in 1990,
between 1972 - 1989 disident against Ceausescu's comunist regime
str. Banki Donath 40
3000 Sf. - Gheorghe
ROMANIA
J. Louis Kovach
Corporation executive
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Mary B. Kovach
Artist
3424 Woodstone Dr
Lewis Center OH 43035
USA
Arpad F. Kovacs
2101 Belvedere Blvd #1
Silver Spring, MD 20902, USA
Anna Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI, USA
Katalin Kovalszki
U of M, LSA College
Ann Arbor,MI,USA
Peter Kovalszki,M.D
IMA-PC
Mt.Clemens,MI,USA
Elmer L. Kuber
138 Oliver Ave.
Selkirk, Manitoba, Canada
R1A 0C3
Sandor Lengyel
Sr. PR. Engineer
531 E Taylor, Apt# 5
Sunnyvale, CA. 94086
U.S.A
Istvan Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Maria Lippai
5917 West 74th Place
Westminster, Colorado 80003
USA
Bela G. Liptak
Adjunct Professor at Yale University
Stamford, CT. USA
Marta Liptak, Ceramics Artist
84 Old N. Stamford Rd., Stamford, CT 06905, USA
Adam Liptak, Esq., New York Times
69 W 8th St., Apt. 11G, New York City, NY 10011, USA
Agnes Liptak, President of Fresco
149 W 75th St., Apt. 4A, New York City, NY 10023, USA
Lixandru Mihai Robert
Student
Aiud-3325, Jud.Alba
Str.Transilvaniei Bl.A5 Ap.15
Romania
Tibor P.P.Lukacs B.A., B.Ed., tanar
18 Merrygale Crescent
Islington, Ontario
Canada, M9B 5P1
Laszlo MESZAROS
senior software designer
Vecsey u. 17
H-2013 Pomaz
Hungary
E-mail: 
Peter I. Orban, engineer
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Szilvia Orban, student
Maxstr. 7, 52070 Aachen
Germany
Stephen Pálffy
Systems Consultant
47 Weavers Close, Isleworth,
Middx. TW7 6ET, England
Laszlo Papp
president World Federation of Hungarians
( Western Chapter)
1197 Valley Road
New Canaan, CT 06840, USA
E-mail: Papparc@ AOL.COM
Eszter Pásztó
Senior Office Manager BBC Hungarian Section
H-1078 Budapest
Hernád u. 25
Hungary
Dr. Sándor Pósvári
euroASTRA
H-1145 Budapest
Amerikai út 47
Sandor Posvari Dr.
E-mail: 
Maria Repolski,M.D.
HFHS
Sterling Heights, MI,USA
Balazs Revffy
Budapest, Hungary
1119 Alsokubin u. 7.
Dr. Gotthard Saghi-Szabo
Senior Research Scientist
Carnegie Institution of Washington
Washington, D.C.
USA
Istvan Sandor
430 Stockton Place
Englewood, NJ 07631
USA
Gergely Simon
software developer
Am Buchrain 15a
D-63322 Rödermark
Germany
Joe Szalai
User Services
Dana Porter Library
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario Canada
Tel: 519 885-1211, ex5758
Net: 
http://library.uwaterloo.ca:80/~jgszalai/joesmain.htm
Dr. Laszlo Szarka geophysicist
H-9400 Sopron, Feher Daniel u. 13.
T:36-99-332608
email:
Ilona Szarvadi
Dalbog 3
431 38 MÖLNDAL
Sweden
Peter Szepesvary
5 Bajcsy Zsilinszky str
Budapest 1065
Hungary
Csilla Szeplaki, student
1031 Budapest, Kaszasdulo u. 9.
Hungary
Gyongyi Szeplaki, student
1031 Budapest, Kaszasdulo u. 9.
Hungary
Istvan Szeplaki
CEO, 1082 Budapest, Erdelyi u. 14.
Hungary
Geza SZOCS poet, former senator
str. Cismigiu Nr.1
3400 Cluj
ROMANIA
Laszlo Surjan
member of the Hungarian Parliament
Budapest XII.
Zirzen Janka u. 9.
Hungary
Mihaly Tapolyai,MD
Chairman, Department of Nephrology and Hypertension
Cleveland Clinic Florida
2801 N.Course Drive G201
POMPANO BEACH, FL 33069, USA
Zoltan Teglas
Computer Scientist
4300 Tirgu Mures,
str. Muncii nr.28. ap.5.
Romania
A.J. Vadasz
5743 Pignut Mtn. Dr.
Warrenton VA 20187
USA T:540 349 1408
Dr. Imre Vago, assistant professor
H-4015 Debrecen, PO. Box 36. Hungary
E-mail: 
Charles M. Vamossy
President
The Hungarian House
213 East 82nd Street
New York, NY 10028, USA
Dr.Laszlo Varju
LT. Colonel,USAF,MC
406 EABG,SGOMF
Operation Joint Guard (SFOR)
APO AE 09794
George B. Waginger
1900 John F. Kennedy Boulevard
Philadelphia, PA 19103-1428
United States of America
Geza C. Ziegler P.E.
1452 Riverbank Rd.
Stamford, CT. 06903
USA
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THE PETITION:
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To: 1st of July, 1997
The Honorable Bill Clinton
President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20001
Members of the Hungarian Lobby are deeply interested in the future of
East-Central Europe, and recognize the need for simultaneous
integration of the countries of the region into NATO. This would
stabilize the whole region and assure the orderly transition toward
democracy and market economy, without the turmoil seen in the former
Yugoslavia.
Romania, a country of 23 milion people, with affinity toward Western
culture, at the same time represents the best potential base of
stability in the Balkans.
Romania's ongoing political democratization and reorganization of all
central and local governmental institutions, the inclusion of the
large Hungarian minority in the government, and the expected
subsequent satisfaction of legitimate minority claims are -- and may
become -- positive examples for the countries of the region.
A look at the map of Europe shows Romania to be the gateway to the
East. Only through this gateway will it be possible to access the
heart of Europe, and the key that will allow this gateway to stay open
-- and to defend it effectively at the same time -- is NATO membership
for Romania.
With an important economic potential due to a large and fertile
agricultural area, her metallurgical and defense industries ready to
produce for her allies, possessing the biggest maritime port in
Eastern Europe, with a multiethnic population and large urban
communities, Romania is just as much an important future partner and
ally of the European Community and of NATO as are Poland, the Czech
Republic, and Hungary.
For all of the above considerations, members of the Hungarian Lobby,
who during the last six months learned, along the the members of
Diaspora Romana, to cooperate in promoting the cause of democratic
transformation in Eastern-Central Europe, support the inclusion of
Romania, along with Hungary, the Czech Republic and Poland, among the
first group of countries to be integrated into NATO.
Members of the Hungarian Lobby :
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A.J.Vadasz reminds us of France's refusal to grant overflight rights
at the time of the retaliatory air raid on Libya, and concludes:
> In the present HUNGARY -> NATO there may be tacit understanding with an
> intervening country to permit transit, but- as I had stated before- it took
> about 2 months of IFOR negotiation to get the needed OK's. And remember IFOR
> was a universally supported mission, at the request of the UN etc. In any
> case it makes one believe that the current NATO expansion is more of a
> political than military nature, plus a "beauty contest". Andy.
Without disputing any of Andy's points, I think the right question to ask
is whether the lack of a land bridge between Hungary and her prospective
NATO partners will in any way reduce the deterrent value of NATO's security
guarantees. Deterrence is the name of the game, and as far as NATO is
concerned, it worked flawlessly for 50 years. Does a few weeks' delay
in the arrival of reinforcements make a difference in a potential
attacker's mind? Even if it takes weeks or months to bring NATO forces
in at full strength, would a mad-dog dictator contemplating a Kuwait-style
land grab ever seriously expect to be able hold on to his gains for very
long? The point of deterrence is to affect the calculations of your
potential opponents. In the eyes of such a potential opponent (assuming
any exist) a few weeks' delay will not make a whole lot of difference,
provided there is no doubt in his mind that soon after he makes his move
he will have the full force of the alliance lined up against him.
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Gabor Fencsik
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